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Porsche 991 Turbo: Frankfurt Motor Show 2013 Spy Pics

Killer-M | On 30, Mar 2013

Porsche 991 Turbo at the Frankfurt Motor Show

So it looks like it will be official, Porsche AG is looking to debut the 2013 Porsche 991 Turbo at the Frankfurt Motor Show in September 2013.  There’s a lot of speculation around this supercar, however it’s safe to say that the turbocharged engine will be a 3.8 liter six cylinder, boxer layout (that means the cylinders are horizontally opposed to each other). Power will be applied to an all wheel drive system with a max output in at 530 hp – slightly more than the outgoing Porsche 997 Turbo S.

These Spy pictures show the turbo with PCCB (Porsche Ceramic Composite Breaks) which come as an option.

There’s still quite a bit of speculation on whether the 991 turbo’s power will be assisted with three or the standard two turbos. A three turbo configuration would consist of a small diameter fast spooling turbo for low end power which would transition the forced air induction to two larger turbos (possibly variable vane) on higher RPM’s. The idea would be an even better reduction to turbo lag – which would make this car simply insane in a 0-100 kph sprint and  and 0-200 kph (120 mph) should then come nicely under 10 seconds – a monumental feet for a stock Porsche!

A few points that we believe are spot on when it comes to the Porsche 991 turbo:

  1. It has active aero. A rubber tube similar to a bicycle tire runs along the underside of the front spoiler. In Sport Plus mode, it fills with air, extending downward as a spoiler to swap the 911’s inherent front-end lift for slight down-force. Top speed is limited to 196 mph on the Turbo S because it’s all the tires can handle—otherwise the new rocket would be capable of 207.
  2. The optional ceramic brake discs measure 16.1 inches in front, 15.4 in the rear. In other words, they’re enormous.
  3. In the past, Turbo models used the Porsche Carrera 4’s wide body. This time, the Turbo is even wider. C4 models are 1.7 inches wider than the base 911; add another 1.1 inches for the Turbo!
  4. Angry mobs, grab your pitchforks. There’s no more manual—PDK is the only transmission now. The center differential is now a computer-controlled, water-cooled Haldex unit that can send 13 percent more power up front.
  5. Additional boost (up to 17.4 psi) and additional revs (up to 7200) means additional power: the Turbo makes 520 hp and 479 lb-ft. The Turbo S makes 560 hp and 516 lb-ft. Each motor gets an over-boost function, producing another 37 lb-ft for up to ten seconds.
  6. Like the Porsche GT3, the 911 Turbo uses rear active steering for more maneuverability at low speeds and more stability at high speeds.
  7. The Turbo’s roof can be painted, made of glass, or made of carbon fiber, a la the Porsche GT3 Cup car.
  8. Not that anyone cares, but the Turbo uses some 13% less fuel than the last one. Partial thanks go to the virtual-gear programming in the PDK that uses clutch slippage to “fake” an appropriate gear ratio. It aims to keeps revs near 1000 rpm under low-speed, low-load conditions. Start/stop is standard, and now turns the engine off under 4 mph.
  9. The last Turbo and Turbo S flew around the Nürburgring in 7:39 and 7:37, respectively. The new car does it in under 7:30, meaning it could match the Porsche Carrera GT’s 7:25. Look for a 0-60 time of around 3 seconds flat.

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Comments

  1. K-E-V

    The front bumper leaves a lot to be desired. It looks like the regular 991 bumper to me with a different lip. The GT3 front bumper is a lot better looking. I wonder if this is really the final rendition of the front bumper considering how good the GT3 looked.

    I agree with you that the rear bumper is a little awkward. It looks like the Rinspeed 997.2 rear bumper

  2. K-E-V

    Rumors are that the Porsche 991 TT-S is going to be released at the same time as the TT this time.

  3. thackl

    HA!! Those Ebay tips are going to sell like crazy now.

    I have to agree though…based on these pics, it doesn’t look any nicer than the 997 and most casual observers probably cannot tell the difference….guess thats good and bad.

  4. raclaims

    I hate the 991.
    It’s huge, too soft, pdk is weak sauce and looks like a cayman from the front.

    This may be the first new turbo released in my lifetime that I have zero interest in buying.

  5. 2006GT

    I don’t think this is THE new 2013 991 turbo. smth doesn’t look right with the bodywork.

  6. jhbrennan

    Has the same Porsche Carrera 991 front end spolier – think it could be a mule.

  7. DaBrat

    Agree. The 991 GT3 made me go wow! If this is the new 991 Turbo, looks a little “weak”. Hope they do more to it to make it look more aggressive.

  8. maverick997

    As with each new generation it’s initially a love hate thing. Given the price point for the new 991 Turbo in at around $170k for starters so it’s easy to hit the $200k with some options, I’m hard pressed to see the benefit initially.

    Porsche want to buy mine back and based on my time in a 991S if the Turbo exhibits the same clinical experience ill wait a while and enjoy the Metzger block and 6speed short shift with an EVOMs 580 tune. The 991 is an amazing piece of engineering “Porsche style” but, ill row my gears for a while longer.

  9. speed21

    I’m calling BS on these pics. The side vents are a photo shop mess, the front grilles are the same as base Carrera 991 just with a bolt on lower lip, the front bar has no turbo front spot lights, that rear bar with the square quad pipes….yuk.

  10. Carbon

    I’ll second the notion that the vehicle we see in the photos is just a testbed for Turbo drivetrain components rather than an actual finished production car being tested.

    What looks like a photo shop on the side vents is actually camouflage by Porsche to make the duct look like the 997 Turbo’s as not to give away the styling of the new car. The inlets we end up with will probably more closely resembler the rounder ones on a Porsche 993 Turbo S and 996 Turbo than the angular evolution of it we saw with the Porsche 997.

    That being said, I don’t much care for the rear end here and am disappointed to see the Cayenne and Panamera design language permeating the range with the Boxster/Cayman and 911 following their lead.

  11. kauai_diver

    Are there any technical reasons not to offer a manual transmission on the new Turbos?

  12. GFORCED

    Manual is pretty out dated with new technology and nobody is offering them. In 2009 Lamborghini said that 3% of their customers requested manual, and cancelled them. The exotic car market is heavily influenced by F1, so this makes sense. It seems to be the natural evolution of the auto industry and I remember at one time intermittent wipers replaced 2 speed systems. Now, intermittent wipers, airbags, ABS brakes, etc. are standard on every car and proven to be quite efficient.

  13. Karman

    I tried a Porsche PDK 911 just to see if I would like it last year when I was looking for a TT. With PDK, one can’t glide in neutral in downhills, and my experience seemed non-engaging, and unsportsmanlike. when I also saw a glimpse of the new Porsche 991 body style, I wasn’t impressed. I also didn’t like the center console looking like a Panamera and making the interior crammed, along with a longer wheelbase. It wouldn’t be unreasonable to assume that under 700hp, the 997.2 has the updated electronic console and styling to make it desiresble as any 997. I immediately bought one of the last new 2012 997.2 TT 6M.

    In the past I have been able to predict a classic in the making. I think the 997 will be a classic, not to mention its perfected style, 6M, and production numbers. To my estimation, I think in 2012, only ~50 997.2 6M TT were sold in the U.S. during a 5 month production run. I counted all the U.S. VINs. If someone has official production numbers, please post it.

    Most people don’t buy these cars as daily drivers, so manual in occasional traffic is not bad at any age. Besides, the one’s who can afford to buy these cars are older (>40), and prefer to drive a stick. PDK fits into the the current “no effort” younger gadget dependent lifestyle, whereas manual requires independent thinking, experience, and work.

    As the demand for manual numbers decline over time, the supply of manual cars will also decline. This built in balance will allow the values to hold steady. You mean to tell me that classics and collectibles from the 1960s will cease to retain value because they don’t have paddles? I don’ think so. This will hold true for resale as manual numbers become more difficult to find. Just look at the car auction prices these days – higher than ever for non-paddle cars!

    Long live the Porsche 997!

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